Below you can watch an exclusive interview from Episode 5 of #whoisthebest, featuring Albert Adrià – one of the most influential figures in modern gastronomy and the creative mind behind Enigma.
In this conversation, he reflects on his journey from El Bulli to forging his own identity, sharing honest insights on creativity, discipline, and what it truly means to be a chef today.
Albert Adrià
Chef & Founder of Enigma | Former Creative Director of elBulli Workshop
Few chefs have lived so closely to the center of the culinary revolution as Albert Adrià. From his formative years at elBulli, where he helped translate ideas into technique and execution, to his own path as a chef and entrepreneur, Adrià has built a career defined by craft, discipline, and quiet reinvention.
At Enigma, his most personal project to date, he distills four decades of experience into a constantly evolving culinary language. One where technique serves emotion, and creativity is always grounded in product, clarity, and experience.
The Best Chef: Albert, when did you stop being Ferran’s brother and start being Albert Adrià?
Albert Adrià:
That’s a good question. When did I stop being Ferran’s brother?
Well, I don’t want to stop being Ferran’s brother. I’ve been his brother since I was born, and I’m proud of it.
Professionally, we are only a few years apart. I started at elBulli in 1985, he in 1982. It’s something I carry with great pride, without any problem.
The Best Chef: How was reinventing yourself through Enigma?
Albert Adrià:
My most important project before this was El Barri, where we created five restaurants in a very small area, earned four Michelin stars, and kept everything fully booked.
After the pandemic, that project ended, and I focused on Enigma. I think it will be my gastronomic legacy. I won’t be able to give the same intensity to another concept like I do here.
Enigma is still evolving. It’s still going strong.
The Best Chef: What was your real role at elBulli?
Albert Adrià:
I spent more than twenty years there. I trained in cuisine, then moved into pastry, partly because of my shellfish allergy at the time. But I always felt like a cook. In 1997, Ferran sent me and Oriol Castro to the elBulli workshop in Barcelona to develop techniques and concepts. That was new at the time.
From then on, until the closing period, I focused on research, technical and conceptual development for elBulli.
The Best Chef: For years you were known as elBulli’s pastry chef. Do you feel that label still defines you?
Albert Adrià:
Yes, but I wasn’t born a pastry chef. I was born a cook. I’ve spent half my life explaining that I am a cook, not just a pastry chef. Now I even have to remind people that I did pastry. It’s funny. For me, there isn’t a big separation between cooking and pastry, but I feel more comfortable cooking. In the end, there are good cooks and bad cooks. I just try to be one of the good ones.
The Best Chef: At Enigma, how do you combine sweet and savoury?
Albert Adrià:
We barely use sugar. We try to work with the natural sugars in the ingredients. That makes everything simpler. A dish with kiwi and coconut water doesn’t need added sugar. It creates a natural symbiosis between sweet and savoury. They overlap and merge.

The Best Chef: Now, Enigma isn’t a rebirth for you, but rather a new beginning, right? Can you explain it to us?
Albert Adrià:
No, it’s not a new beginning. It’s a synthesis of everything I’ve done.
Enigma changes constantly. That’s the idea. The team evolves, the thinking evolves, the restaurant evolves. The name fits perfectly. It is an enigma.
I like that uncertainty. I’m not worried about where it goes. I trust the team and the process. At 56, you can still mark your territory.

The Best Chef: Do you think you’re one of the pioneers of avant-garde cuisine alongside Ferran? And are you now transforming avant-garde from pure performance into something more concept-driven and rooted in territory and identity?
Albert Adrià:
The Adrià surname is associated with creativity, of course. But creativity must serve the product and the experience. I don’t start from a need to be creative. I start from wanting to offer an experience.
Technique, knowledge, innovation. They all serve the ingredient. The goal is simple: that the guest leaves happy.
The Best Chef: Why do you attract so many international guests?
Albert Adrià:
I’ve been in this profession for forty years. The elBulli imprint is still everywhere. There are “bullinians” all over the world who carry that philosophy forward. So naturally, people are curious.
And yes, I think: who better to experience it than with me?

The Best Chef: Would Ferran exist without you, or you without Ferran?
Albert Adrià:
It was never about one person. It was always about a team.
Ferran understood that perfectly. He called it a kind of “dictatorial democracy.” Everyone contributed, but he made the final decision.
It worked because there was respect. And because we were a family.
The Best Chef: What does “reduction” mean to you in cooking?
Albert Adrià:
I prefer to talk about concentration, not reduction. Too much reduction can make dishes heavy and difficult to digest. I prefer simple expressions: blending a grilled mushroom, or combining ingredients directly. I want to preserve the DNA of the product. There isn’t one truth in cooking. There are many. But the main one is always the quality of the product.
The Best Chef: Today it’s very difficult to get Mediterranean products. Why is that happening?
Yes. The problem is that the sea is tired, exhausted. You need 40 identical pieces, and this business is based on routine, on everything being exactly the same every day. The great complexity lies in sourcing the product. The Mediterranean is exhausted.
We are trying to manage it through fishing bans, and if they are well implemented, some species can recover. But there are products that are practically gone, and if we continue like this, the same will happen with others.
Sea urchins, for example, are already at their limit. I’m not saying there will be none, but when something reaches that point, prices just keep rising every year—like squid, prawns, or sea cucumbers.
It’s just reality.

The Best Chef: Today Ferran said you are the most creative chef in the world. Do you see yourself that way?
Another chef said exactly the same today, apart from Ferran who came for lunch on Tuesday. But it’s not true. I’m not the most creative, not even close to the second or the tenth best cook in the world in terms of creativity.
The world is very big, and there are many, many very good people. I know who they are. That’s why I know I’m not. Very few people in the world really know who they are. I am just one of them.

The Best Chef: What does “The Best Chef” mean to you?
Albert Adrià:
The best is the one others say is the best, not the one who says it himself. But it’s also not important to be the best at everything. What matters is waking up and being happy.
We don’t sell food. Forget that. We sell happiness. And if you manage that, everything else, money, success, recognition, can follow.

